Discussion in 'Digital Materials and Machine Tools' started by biodentg, May 11, 2019.
Is it possible to Etch Zr Veneers for bonding?
Or you can use one of these products if you don't want the zirconia to come off
The ceramic engeneer at Doceram told me years ago 40 % HF is good for etching zircon but thats the devil himselv used it in the eigthies deinvest gold inlays .
40% HF would you recommend any brand, please?
If you use any of the products listed in post #3 you will not need to etch.
i always bought 1 liter bottles 40 % from pharmacist
I'm leaning towards etching and z-prime zr, easier to sell the idea to the clients.
Until there is some real data shared about that product I would wait.
If you use the Bisco product linked above properly zirconia crowns won't come out. Way easier than the directions listed for IDS Etching Solution.
nice name hope its not part of the buisness
I asked about the paperwork on this product and was told they don't have it...yet. I'm hesitant to use it without having a source for the claim.
I believe the emax days will soon be over.
Hi Cadfan, I just got the acid and I'm ready for test trial. How long would you recommend to leave acid on zr for proper etching?
take care this is the devil himself i would say a minute or so but care this although kills the lungs if you have a cold your nose is free after a breeze
I'll take all precautions necessary, thanks for the advise.
If you are going to etch for the doc, please tell them that before they cement they need to clean the intaglio surface and dry it. If not everything you are doing for them is a waste of time. I quit etching anything years ago because it was my fault that the cement didn't stick to the crown. Attention to protocol is very important, and a lot of docs are too busy to follow them.
I will use it as the last option for a very few clients who I know will be careful bonding these units.
I'll be adding Z-Prime plus for extra protection on my side.
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